ВМРО призова да наложим вето върху членството на Македония в НАТО.
Повод за това е арестуваната българка от Гевгели Спаска Митрова, която излежава присъда в скопския затвор „Идризово" и отказът на македонския президент Георге Иванов да я помилва.
ВМРО определя неангажиращият отговор на македонския президент като откровен цинизъм и настоява за категорична реакция от страна на българското правителство.
Държавата е изчерпала възможностите си за въздействие върху Македония.
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Като пълноправен член на НАТО и ЕС България не би могла да оказва съдействие и подкрепа на Македония за приемането й в тези институции, след като в западната ни съседка продължава нарушаването на човешките права и репресиите над граждани с българско самосъзнание, заявяват хората на Каракачанов.
Считаме, че случаят със Спаска Митрова не е вътрешен проблем за Македония, тъй като младата жена е и с българско гражданство, се казва още в изявлението им.
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на 05.09.2009 в 00:08:49 #221Точно това писмо показва несъстоятелността на гръцките претенции към Македония. Всъщност проблемът на Гърция е колкото историята, толкова и Егейска Македония, за която България замълча 1994 година при едни преговори с гърците.
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на 05.09.2009 в 00:04:49 #220Доста грешки, че набързо го написах, но се чете де.
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на 05.09.2009 в 00:03:27 #219carefree
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на 05.09.2009 в 00:02:49 #218Тук говоримза пропаганда, политика и лъжи, а не за математика. Иначе и Айнщайн има ревизионисти.

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на 05.09.2009 в 00:01:21 #217Балканец Ето, поглеждам се отстрани. Значи седнал Буш, чудил се какво да прави и решил, та признал името Македония, без да пита никого, въпреги многогодишния спор. Появяват се едни много професори от авторитетни университети и край, това е истината, нали са професори. Балканец, и ние сме учили глупости, в целия съветски лагер, и глупости продължават да се учат. путин беснее, че се пренаписва историята, а ти говориш за авторитети. напротив, не следваш ли официалната линия политическа си рискуваш кариерата!!! Само дето светът вече не е само пропаганда и човек трябва да си доказва твърденията. Извадих ти поне абсолютно неисторически цитата. Ти говориш за звучене, как ми изглежда и т.н. Това са явни недомослици и е срам за трези професори, че са представили такива смешни доводи. Бил грък, защото пишел на гръцки. Панонците не се знае какви са, но със сигурност не са били македонци. На това как му казваш, Балканец!? История?
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на 04.09.2009 в 23:54:41 #216dddddd, Абе ти що не се погледнеш отстрани?! Ми тогава що не вземеш да опровергаеш Теорията на относителността, щото не ти звучи! Тоя Айнщай - голем глупак! И американските президенти - идиоти, щото са полагали изпити при тези същите професори. Само си губя времето с комплексирани идиоти.
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на 04.09.2009 в 23:53:03 #215В Егейска Македония е имало съвсем малко гърци. Картата на Българската екзархия е достатъчно точна.
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на 04.09.2009 в 23:51:21 #214Балканец Московската академия на науките не е по-малко "авторитетна". Посочвам ти явни безмислици на пръв прочит. Авторитети историци колкото искаш. затова и в Британика пише, че произходът на българите не се знае, но вероятно е тюркски. Точно по съшия начин пишатр и тези доказани учени. А, не, благодаря.
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на 04.09.2009 в 23:49:20 #213The ancient Paionians may or may not have been Greek, but they certainly became Greekish, and they were never Slavs. They were also not Macedonians. Ancient Paionia was a part of the Macedonian Empire. Ето това е, древните панонци може да са били, а може и да не са били гърци, но със сигурност са се погърчили и никога не са били славяни. Не са били и македонци. Древна Панония е била част от Македонската империя. А бе господа историци, като не знаете какви са били, как решихте, че не са били със сигурност славяни или македонци? Браво на историческата "наука".
Срам за всички сложили подпис и за университетите им. Да видим отговорът на Обама. Явно хората на Буш са били по-запознати.
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на 04.09.2009 в 23:45:49 #212dddddd, Каквото и да твърдят, това са водещите историци по Елинистична История. Те са от 11 (ЕДИНАДЕСЕТ) РАЗЛИЧНИ ДЪРЖАВИ. Това не подлежи на силово администриране. Ако си мислиш, че тези всичките ще си заложат името и кариерата за неверно политическо твърдение, това би било връх на наивността. В тези университети учат бъдещите политически ръководители на Европа и Северна Америка. Там нещата са доказвани многократно за последните 300-400 години на база факти и артефакти. А аргументи от типа: :Това не ми звучи добре, това не е така, щото не искам да е така, изводът е неверен, защото това не ми звучи достоверно, всичко това не върви. В тези среди войната е страшна и всяка граешка коства нечия кариера. И ако нещо в някой пасаж не ни звучи съвсем, това не значи, че не е верно, а само че тази тема е разработен на друго място.
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на 04.09.2009 в 23:45:37 #211Alexander the Great was thoroughly and indisputably Greek. His great-great-great grandfather, Alexander I, competed in the Olympic Games where participation was limited to Greeks. А това е необоримото и голямо доказателство на тези историци, че Александър е бил грък, че неговият пра пра пра пра дядо се състезавал на Олимпйските игри, които били само за гърци. Голям смях се очертава с ревизията на гръцката история.

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на 04.09.2009 в 23:40:12 #210While it is true that the Paionians were subdued by Philip II, father of Alexander, in 358 B.C. they were not Macedonians and did not live in Macedonia. Likewise, for example, the Egyptians, who were subdued by Alexander, may have been ruled by Macedonians, including the famous Cleopatra, but they were never Macedonians themselves, and Egypt was never called Macedonia. Балканец, виж как са се оплели тези професори и ме поправи ако бъркам. Значи управлявани са от македонци, но не са македонци. От което следват две неща 1. македонци съшествуват 2. Македонци управляват Тогава какъв им е проблемът? Трябвало е Египет да се казва също Македония?

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на 04.09.2009 в 23:37:21 #209Хаха, гърците настояват, че Александър не е бил славянин.

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на 04.09.2009 в 23:37:20 #208carefree | 04.09.2009 22:29 боли ме кура за обама и етиопските цигани подписали писмото.... казах ви .. като нещете да сте траки или Македонци.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ааааа то с "искане" ставало. Защо не поискахте да сте марсианци бе сърбо-албанско цигане такова?
Поискаха и ...Хитър Петър стана маке...после и Самуил... и.т.н
Сега чакаме и Обама и Путин да станат... импотенти такива.

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на 04.09.2009 в 23:34:20 #204Francois de Callatay, Professor of Monetary and Financial history of the Greek world, Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes (Paris/Sorbonne) and Professor of Financial history of the Greco-Roman world, Universite libre de Bruxelles (France and Brussels) Wolfgang Decker, Professor emeritus of sport history, Deutsche Sporthochschule, Koln (Germany) Luc Deitz, Ausserplanmassiger Professor of Mediaeval and Renaissance Latin, University of Trier (Germany), and Curator of manuscripts and rare books, National Library of Luxembourg (Luxembourg) Charalambos Dendrinos, Lecturer in Byzantine Literature and Greek Palaeography, Acting Director, The Hellenic Institute, Royal Holloway, University of London (UK) Michael Dewar, Professor of Classics, University of Toronto (Canada) John D. 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Eisman, Associate Professor Ancient History and Classical Archaeology, Department of History, Temple University (USA) Mostafa El-Abbadi, Professor Emeritus, University of Alexandria (Egypt) R. Malcolm Errington, Professor fur Alte Geschichte (Emeritus) Philipps- Universitat, Marburg (Germany) Christos C. Evangeliou, Professor of Ancient Hellenic Philosophy, Towson University, Maryland, Honorary President of International Association for Greek Philosophy (USA) Panagiotis Faklaris, Assistant Professor of Classical Archaeology, Aristotle University of Thessaloniki (Greece) Denis Feeney, Giger Professor of Latin, Princeton University (USA) Michael Ferejohn, Associate Professor of Ancient Philosophy, Duke University (USA) Kleopatra Ferla, Ph.D. in Ancient History, Head of Research and Management of Cultural Information, Foundation of the Hellenic World, Athens (Greece) Elizabeth A. Fisher, Professor of Classics and Art History, Randolph-Macon College (USA) Nick Fisher, Professor of Ancient History, Cardiff University (UK) R. Leon Fitts, Asbury J Clarke Professor of Classical Studies, Emeritus, FSA, Scot., Dickinson Colllege (USA) John M. Fossey FRSC, FSA, Emeritus Professor of Art History (and Archaeology), McGill Univertsity, Montreal, and Curator of Archaeology, Montreal Museum of Fine Arts (Canada) Dr. Athanasios Fotiou, Adjunct Professor, College of the Humanities, Greek and Roman Studies, Carleton University, Ottawa (Canada) Robin Lane Fox, University Reader in Ancient History, New College, Oxford (UK) Dr. Lee Fratantuono, William Francis Whitlock Professor of Latin, Ohio Wesleyan University (USA) Stavros Frangoulidis, Associate Professor of Latin. Aristotelian University of Thessaloniki (Greece) William K. Freiert, Professor of Classics and Hanson-Peterson Chair of Liberal Studies, Gustavus Adolphus College (USA) Rainer Friedrich, Professor of Classics Emeritus, Dalhousie University, Halifax, N.S. (Canada) Heide Froning, Professor of Classical Archaeology, University of Marburg (Germany) Peter Funke, Professor of Ancient History, University of Muenster (Germany) Traianos Gagos, Professor of Greek and Papyrology, University of Michigan (USA) Karl Galinsky, Cailloux Centennial Professor of Classics, University of Texas, Austin (USA) Robert Garland, Roy D. and Margaret B. Wooster Professor of the Classics, Colgate University, Hamilton NY (USA) Hans-Joachim Gehrke, Prof. Dr., President of the German Archaeological Institute Berlin (Germany) Dr. Ioannis Georganas, Researcher, Department of History and Archaeology, Foundation of the Hellenic World (Greece) Douglas E. Gerber, Professor Emeritus of Classical Studies, University of Western Ontario (Canada) Dr. Andre Gerolymatos, Chair and Professor of Hellenic Studies, Simon Fraser University (Canada) Stephen L. Glass, John A. McCarthy Professor of Classics & Classical Archaeology, Pitzer College: The Claremont Colleges (USA) Hans R. Goette, Professor of Classical Archaeology, University of Giessen (Germany); German Archaeological Institute, Berlin (Germany) Sander M. Goldberg, Professor of Classics, UCLA (USA) Mark Golden, Professor, Department of Classics, University of Winnipeg (Canada) Ellen Greene, Joseph Paxton Presidential Professor of Classics, University of Oklahoma (USA) Robert Gregg, Teresa Moore Professor of Religious Studies, Emeritus, Director, The Abbasi Program in Islamic Studies, Stanford University (USA) Frederick T. Griffiths, Professor of Classics, Amherst College (USA) Dr. Peter Grossmann, Member emeritus, German Archaeological Institute, Cairo (Egypt) Erich S. Gruen, Gladys Rehard Wood Professor of History and Classics, Emeritus, University of California, Berkeley (USA) Martha Habash, Associate Professor of Classics, Creighton University (USA) Christian Habicht, Professor of Ancient History, Emeritus, Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton (USA) Donald C. Haggis, Nicholas A. Cassas Term Professor of Greek Studies, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (USA) Judith P. Hallett, Professor of Classics, University of Maryland, College Park, MD (USA) Kim Hartswick, Academic Director, CUNY Baccalaureate for Unique and Interdisciplinary Studies, New York City (USA) Prof. Paul B. Harvey, Jr. Head, Department of Classics and An
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на 04.09.2009 в 23:33:53 #203Балканец Ти виж какво твърдят. Щом е разспостранил гръцката азбука, значи е бил грък. Еее, на такова нещо не би се подписал никой сериозен историк.
Сега ще го разгледам цялото. Но със сигурност е била много голяма кампания, все пак Буш им заши голям шамар.
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на 04.09.2009 в 23:33:52 #202менте-фиромчето и дидка изнасят представление?.....мммм.....интересно ....
